. >> boss limbaugh today falsely describing that philadelphia town hall as senator specter and secretary sebelius getting hell from average americans who know they're full of it. minority leader boehner and michelle malkin also applauding the discussions, evoking the bloodshed of iraq in describing the scripted protests as, quote, counterinsurgency. >> i've been covering these counterinsurgencys among taxpayer rights groups and i think that this administration of democrats have vastly under estimated just how grass roots this movement is. >> she also believes in ghosts. time now to call in senator sanders, independent of vermont, member of the health, education, labor, and pensions committee. good to talk to you again. >> good to be with you, keith. >> these tactics, both the phony protests and the applause, do the tactics surprise you at all? >> not at all. the fact is these people talk about freedom and what they are doing is trying to disrupt meetings, which is the absolute opposite of what freedom of discussions about. and the reason for that is they are afraid to debate the real iss